Spiritual Chat 29 - Expanded Version                            About Spiritual Chat 29
Title: What Does It Mean, "Man Comes To Know Himself"?,
                    and, "What Happened To The Original Qur'an of Muhammad (Sal.), of Bawa
                    Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), and of the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen ?
                    and, "Who Are Our Brothers And Sisters?"
Date: October 8, 2002,
Chat Between: Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) and Rumi Smith


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Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of us. 

May God help us all.  My love you (anbu), my dearest brothers and sisters, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).
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4.  Question 2-a  What Happened To The Original Qur'an of Muhammad (Sal.)?

          What happened to it is the state of the world today, that we are all now
          experiencing as "who we are", as "where we are", and as "what is happening" in
          our life, as the world that we live in with our brothers and sisters and collectively
          see in our ignorance as existing on the "outside" of us. 
          More on Question 2-a
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5.  Question 2-b  What Happened To The Original Qur'an of Bawa
          Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)?

          What happened to it is "us", as the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God
          be pleased with each of Us), is "us" on the "outside" of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen
          (may God be pleased with Him), is "us" as the "outside" or Shadow of the Shaikh
          within us.

          What happened to it is the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), on
          both the "inside" and the "outside" of us.
          More on Question 2-b

6.  Question 2-c   What Will Happen To The Original Qur'an of the Children of
          Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)?

          What will happen to it is akhirah, "here" and "now", is the "hereafter", the
          kingdom of God, for all of the people living in the world today, in the 18,000
          universes within us, in the 14 worlds within us, for everyone within "us".
          More on Question 2-c

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4.  Question 2-a:  What Happened To The Original Qur'an of Muhammad (Sal.)?

Overview of Question

What happened to it is the state of the world today, that we are all now experiencing as "who we are", as "where we are", and as "what is happening" in our life, as the world that we live in with our brothers and and collectively see in our ignorance as existing on the "outside" of us. 

This is what happened to the Qur'an of Muhammad (Sal.), to the original Qur'an that came to Muhammad (Sal.) from Allah 1400 years ago.  It became the world that we all collectively see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of us, it became the world of the 21st century, waiting for "America to Invade Iraq", waiting for the "West to invade the East", waiting for "Christianity and Judaism to go to war with Islam", waiting for the "beast" to come out of one of us, to destroy the world "outside" for all of us, forever destroying any chance for any of us to get it right before we die.
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MuhaiyaddeenLB:

My dearest loving sister Rumi, my love you (anbu).  We must realize without the slightest doubt that there is a reason for everything, for everything in our life, and for the life of everyone else, for all life, there is a reason why we are now experiencing life and the world in a certain way, as America in the beginning of the 21st century, the lone surviving Super Power of the world, and why other people experienced the 1st and 2nd world wars in the beginning and middle of the 20th century.

And there is a reason hidden within our current life, a reason hidden within the reason, that has led us to the state we all now share, the state of our life, seen by the wisdom within us, as the "dream" life lived "outside" of us, in the world of "separation and differences", with our brothers and sisters, that in truth is but a reflection of the lives of darkness within us, with us in our ignorance nourishing these lives of darkness within us with our sins, with our every look, thought, intention, word, and action of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us.

For in truth, we have come to our current life in the world, from the original state of the Qur'an, as it came from Allah, from the effulgence of Allah, when it came as the resplendence, the radiance, the resonance, and grace of Allah, becoming successively the Light of God or Nur Muhammad that came to the Angel Gabriel (A.S.), then as the grace and attributes of Allah, or the Qutb of Allah, that came to Muhammad (Sal.), then as the revelations of Muhammad (Sal.) to the followers of Muhammad (Sal.), then as the sound of these revelations that were transformed into letters and formed into words, becoming in this way, public knowledge and part of history, and what we are all now experiencing as the world today.

For as Bawa teaches us on page 137, in Chapter 12, "The Inner Qur'an", in the book, "Islam And World Peace: Explanations of a Sufi",

          "What was revealed in those words [from the prophet Muhammad (Sal.)]
          ultimately became public knowledge and part of history (and the physical book
          that we now call the "Holy Qur'an").  The interpretations of this knowledge later
          gave rise to religious differences, divisions, and bigotry, which in turn gave rise to
          prejudice, fighting, and wars." 

          "This is the state the world has come to."

Bringing us today to the point in the Qur'an, on the "outside" of us, where "America Invades Iraq", where the "West goes to war with the East", where "Christianity and Judaism go to war with Islam", where the "beast" finally comes out of one of us, to destroy all of us, to destroy all of us on the "outside" of all of us, destroying forever the chance of any of us getting it right before we die.  Such is our current state, my dear loving sister Rumi.

And as "the One who transcends everything", we are the "nothing", the "no-thing", we are what is "One with" everything, what is "One with" the Creation of God and with the Creation of True Man within us, and as such, we are  "The Oneness of God and True Man" within us.

And as "the Cause", we are the Creation of True Man, we are the soul, and the soul within the soul, we are the Triple Flame of God, we are the grace, the light, and the 'ilm or divine knowledge of God, we are the Dhat of Allah, the essence of God, as well as, the sifat or form of the Dhat, which is the Asma'ul Husna, the 99 attributes or names of God, the grace of the Dhat, which is the Qutb of Allah, the action of the power of wilayat of Allah, we are the innermost heart of man, we are the Umm al-Qur'an, the Mother of Man's wisdom, His justice and faith, the eye of the Qur'an, the Suratal Fatihah, the essence of the Qur'an, the Inner Qur'an, we are the kingdom of God, we are akhirah.

My dearest loving sister Rumi, this is God and this is Us. This is who we truly are and this is who God truly is, and as such we are One, as the apple and the apple tree are One, we are everything, we are what transcends everything, and we are the Cause of "everything" becoming "what transcends everything", revealing in this way, "The Oneness of God and True Man" within everything, for the benefit of all of everything.

Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

In this way, my dearest loving sister Rumi, we are the Creation of God know as man and the Creation of True Man know as God, and what transcends all Creation, as well as the Cause of this transition from everything to "no-thing", which is  "The Oneness of God and True Man", as an apple tree is truly the Creation known as the apple, the apple tree, and apple seed, what transcends this Creation known as the apple, the apple tree, and the apple seed, which is "The oneness of the apple tree and the apple", which is hidden within the apple seed, just as we are the "Seed of God and True Man" that hides the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, as well as the Cause of this transition, which is God, as Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim, as the Creator, the Nourisher, and the Sustainer.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

So to forget God is to forget this state, is to forget the state of "The Oneness of God and True Man" hidden within us, and to fall into many a trap, to become the Creation of God within us, and as such, to take on the temporary state of "separation from" God "outside" of us, which if not corrected before we die, by joining with the Cause of God within us, which is our wisdom and the truth of God within it, that God has  personally and ever so lovingly placed and hidden within us, even before we came to this earth world or dunya, join with the Cause of God which is our Shaikh within us, and God within Him, by joining with Them within us to become the temporary state of "Oneness with" God on both the "inside" and "outside" of us, before we die.

Which if not corrected, this temporary state of "separation from" God, before we die, will cause us to take on the eternal state of "separation from" God after we die, which is our karma, our fate, our destiny, which is the karma, fate, and destiny of the 5 elements within us, after they have fall out of the state of purity within us, out of the state of the Kalimah within us, the affirmation of the Unity of Allah given to them by God before God created Adam within us (peace be upon Him), which then becomes our karma, fate, and destiny, of us joined as One with the 5 elemental lives within us, rather then, the eternal state of "Oneness with" God, which is our true birthright, our true heritage, the destiny of our soul, of us joined as One with our Shaikh within us, and with God within Him. 

May we both think about this a little, my dearest loving sister Rumi.  It is very, very important.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

And to know yourself, is to understand these two states, to understand both these states within us, to know the state of "The Oneness of God and True Man" within us, which is the state of "Oneness with" God, and to know the other state within us, the state of "separation from" God within us, and how one state is transformed into the other state, how the state of "separation from" God becomes the state of "Oneness with" God. 

That is the work, my dearest loving sister Rumi, that is the work that leads us to,

          "Man coming to know himself."

The work that we cannot do alone, that we cannot do in the state of "separation from" God, the work that we can only do joined in partnership with God within us, joined as One with our wisdom and the truth of God within us, joined as One with our Shaikh within us, and with God within Him. Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

And knowing both states, to reject the one state and to embrace the other, to reject the state of "separation from" God, of "separation from" each other, and of "separation from" the Creation of God within us, to reject the darkness known as anathi within us, the lack of understanding known as anathi within us, which is our current state, and to embraced the other state, the state of the light of aathi, the understanding of aathi, which is the state of God within us, the state of our Shaikh within us, and of God within Him.

And in this way, to differentiated ourselves into heaven and hell within us, by letting the Qutb of God counsel God in anathi within us, allowing this "true disciple" of God within us, to turn away from His focus and fascination with the darkness surrounding Him, and instead ask the question, "Who am I?, allowing the Power of God to resonate within us, allowing God as this "true disciple" to meditate upon that Power of God within us, allowing the Nur to come to maturity within that Power within us, and having reached maturity within us, to emerge out of that Power within us, out of the heart of our Shaikh, out of God in anathi within us, God in the state of separation from the Nur within us, of separation from His understanding within us, becoming aathi within us, becoming again One with the light of God within us, with the Nur within us, becoming again the understanding of God within us.

To differentiate ourselves into what God becomes "One with" and into what God becomes "separate from", when the Nur and the Qutb emerges out of God in anathi within us, out of the effulgence of God in anathi within us, out of the effulgence of God which is the heart of our Shaikh within us, within anathi within us, which is the darkness or the Shadow of our Shaikh within us, to differentiate ourselves into what is embraced by God and into what is discarded from God when the Nur emerges out of God within us, and becomes the Light of God within us, became "aathi" within us, becomes the Primal One, the Nur Muhammad, Allahu within us, and the Qutb emerges out of the Nur, and in this way, to differentiate ourselves into heaven and hell within us. 

That is our work, my dearest loving sister Rumi, joined as One with our Shaikh within us, and with God within Him, so They can complete this work within us, so We (which is "us" joined as One with Them) can differentiate what is within us, the darkness and lack of understanding of us known as anathi within us, into heaven and hell within us, into the pure soul and the impure souls within us, into what God then uses, as
Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim
within us, to create the Shadow of the Nur, which is man, and place the pure soul within us, as the Nur Muhammad within the Nur Muhammad, as the 6 within the 7th, within Adam within us (peace be upon Him).

Allowing Adam within us (peace be upon Him) to recover from His fall, from the spit of Satan, which is the sperm of man, and the dog of desire, which is the ovum of woman, allowing the eye of Wisdom on the Nur Muhammad that God has placed on the forehead of Adam within us (peace be upon Him) to be permanently opened within us, allowing the Nur Muhammad within us, which is the Iman, which is the "Seed of True Man" within us, to germinate and come to maturity within us, as Allah Muhammad
within us, which is Islam and the "Seed of God" within us, as True Man within us, allowing True Man within us to reveal God within the Creation of True Man within us, and in this way, revealing the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, which in truth is God and True Man within us.

Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

This is our work, my dearest loving sister Rumi, to join with God within us to reveal God within God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God and the Creation of True Man within us, not to worry about Rumi, not to worry about our state as "separate from" God, or to worry what we have to learn in that state, or whether or not we will become acceptable to God in that state, and instead, to let us end, to let "us" as "separate from" God come to an end, as an apple seed, after realizing the truth that emerges from within it, lets itself, as the apple seed end, come to an end, die in the earth, and instead, joins with the earth, to germinate, and reveal the sweet taste of the apple hidden within the apple tree hidden within it.  This is our work.

In this way, when the Nur emerges out of God in anathi, after God meditates upon Himself, after God meditates upon the Power of God within Himself, that manifests within Himself after He is counseled by the Qutb of Allah, and accepts the life and teaching of the Qutb of God, the Guru of God for this age, which for us in this age is the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him), and then turns away from the darkness "outside" of Him, and starts to meditate upon the Power of God that has manifested within Him, which for us in this age is the heart of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him), which manifested within Him, when God in his darkness, not knowing Himself, heeded the advice of the Qutb of God, and asked God within Him the following question, "Who am I?"

And in this way, to have rejected the darkness from Him, and to have embraced and become One with the light within Him, to have rejected the state of darkness, the state of the impure souls, the state of "separation from" God, and to have embraced the other state, the state of "Oneness with" God, which after the Creation of God, of the Shadow of the Nur, also becomes the state of "Oneness with" each other, of "oneness with" our True Brothers and Sisters within us, and of "Oneness with" the Creation of God within us.

In this way, and in this way alone, to embrace our brothers and sisters as they truly are within us, which are the 1000 generosities of God within us, not as they appear in our dream life, as our brothers and sisters that we see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of us, and to embrace the Creation of God within us, also as they truly are within us, which is the 18,000 universes within us, not as we see them in our dream, as animals living "outside" of us.

Rumismith:

This is very beautifully explained.
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5.  Question 2-b:  What Happened To The Original Qur'an of Bawa
          Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

What happened to it is "us", is "us" as the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us) on the "outside" of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), as the "outside" or Shadow of the Shaikh within us.

What happened to it is the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), on both the "inside" and the "outside" of us.

This is what happened to it, which if we properly join it together, if we properly join together "us" and our Shaikh, if we make the Shadow of the Shaikh disappear back into the Shaikh, from which it came, to complete the work of the Shaikh within us, which is to reveal True Man within the Creation of God within us, if we do this divine work before we die, if we properly join together "us", as the "outside" Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.).

As the Shadow of the Shaikh within us, with the "outside" life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), if we join these two together, which is the understanding of the Shaikh joined with the Shaikh within us, it will become the "inside" and "outside" life and teaching of the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), it will become the Children of God for this age, the Light of God to the world in this age, in this age of
Bawa Muhaiyaddeen
(may God be pleased with Him) and of the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us).

This is what happened to the Qur'an of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), to the original Qur'an that came to Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) from Allah 116 years ago, in 1886 AD, with the coming of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) into the world.
          
It became "us" as the "outside" Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), which if properly joined with the "outside" life and teaching of
Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) becomes the Deen within the Deen, which is the understanding of the Deen within us, the light within the light of what was brought into the world by Muhammad (Sal.) 1400 years earlier, and gradually became corrupted by man.

For as Bawa teaches us, in the "Forward" of the book, "The Pearl of Wisdom",

          "Man, appearing on this earth, forgets God, and into falls into many a trap.  He
          does not know to seek himself, although God exists within man."

And as has recently opened within the heart of your brother, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler),

          "God, appearing as the earth and the Oneness within it, separates from man,
          and lets man fall into many a trap, becoming what will allow man to seek himself,
          and again become One with God, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God and
          of True Man within Him".

It became the Muhaiyaddeen of God (Ral.) for our age, the "giver of life back to true belief", the "bringer of the Pure Light of truth", the "Light within the Light of God for the world" for this age.

And it became the Qur'an within the Qur'an, the Qur'an of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within the Qur'an of Muhammad (Sal.), it became the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within the life and teaching of Muhammad (Sal.), it became the "Resonance of Allah", and the "Pearl of Wisdom", and all of the other books, and all of the other 10, 000 discourses and songs, of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), all given during the life of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) in the world , from 1886 to 1986, all contained within the Revelations of God to Muhammad (Sal.), which were recorded in the Spiritual Book called, "The Holy Qur'an", and recorded in other Spiritual Books like, "The Hadiths or Traditional Story of the Prophet Muhammad (Sal.)", all given during the life of the Prophet Muhammad in the world, from 570 to 632.        
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6.  Question 2-c:  What Will Happen To The Original Qur'an of the Children of
          Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

What will happen to it is akhirah, "here" and "now", is the "hereafter", the kingdom of God, for all of the people living in the world today, in the 18,000 universes within us, in the 14 worlds within us, for everyone within "us".

This is what will happened to the Qur'an of the true Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), to the original Qur'an that came to the true Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) from Allah 16 years ago, in 1986 AD, with the coming of the true Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) into the world, until their leaving in the year 2086 AD.


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Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

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Title: What Does It Mean, "Man Comes To Know Himself"?,
                    and, "What Happened To The Original Qur'an of Muhammad (Sal.), of Bawa
                    Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), and of the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen ?
                    and, "Who Are Our Brothers And Sisters?"
Date: October 8, 2002,
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Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of us. 

May God help us all.  My love you (anbu), my dearest brothers and sisters, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).
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4.  Question 2-a  What Happened To The Original Qur'an of Muhammad (Sal.)?

          What happened to it is the state of the world today, that we are all now
          experiencing as "who we are", as "where we are", and as "what is happening" in
          our life, as the world that we live in with our brothers and sisters and collectively
          see in our ignorance as existing on the "outside" of us. 
          More on Question 2-a
          Text of Chat
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5.  Question 2-b  What Happened To The Original Qur'an of Bawa
          Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)?

          What happened to it is "us", as the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God
          be pleased with each of Us), is "us" on the "outside" of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen
          (may God be pleased with Him), is "us" as the "outside" or Shadow of the Shaikh
          within us.

          What happened to it is the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), on
          both the "inside" and the "outside" of us.
          More on Question 2-b

6.  Question 2-c   What Will Happen To The Original Qur'an of the Children of
          Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)?

          What will happen to it is akhirah, "here" and "now", is the "hereafter", the
          kingdom of God, for all of the people living in the world today, in the 18,000
          universes within us, in the 14 worlds within us, for everyone within "us".
          More on Question 2-c

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4.  Question 2-a:  What Happened To The Original Qur'an of Muhammad (Sal.)?

Overview of Question

What happened to it is the state of the world today, that we are all now experiencing as "who we are", as "where we are", and as "what is happening" in our life, as the world that we live in with our brothers and and collectively see in our ignorance as existing on the "outside" of us. 

This is what happened to the Qur'an of Muhammad (Sal.), to the original Qur'an that came to Muhammad (Sal.) from Allah 1400 years ago.  It became the world that we all collectively see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of us, it became the world of the 21st century, waiting for "America to Invade Iraq", waiting for the "West to invade the East", waiting for "Christianity and Judaism to go to war with Islam", waiting for the "beast" to come out of one of us, to destroy the world "outside" for all of us, forever destroying any chance for any of us to get it right before we die.
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MuhaiyaddeenLB:

My dearest loving sister Rumi, my love you (anbu).  We must realize without the slightest doubt that there is a reason for everything, for everything in our life, and for the life of everyone else, for all life, there is a reason why we are now experiencing life and the world in a certain way, as America in the beginning of the 21st century, the lone surviving Super Power of the world, and why other people experienced the 1st and 2nd world wars in the beginning and middle of the 20th century.

And there is a reason hidden within our current life, a reason hidden within the reason, that has led us to the state we all now share, the state of our life, seen by the wisdom within us, as the "dream" life lived "outside" of us, in the world of "separation and differences", with our brothers and sisters, that in truth is but a reflection of the lives of darkness within us, with us in our ignorance nourishing these lives of darkness within us with our sins, with our every look, thought, intention, word, and action of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us.

For in truth, we have come to our current life in the world, from the original state of the Qur'an, as it came from Allah, from the effulgence of Allah, when it came as the resplendence, the radiance, the resonance, and grace of Allah, becoming successively the Light of God or Nur Muhammad that came to the Angel Gabriel (A.S.), then as the grace and attributes of Allah, or the Qutb of Allah, that came to Muhammad (Sal.), then as the revelations of Muhammad (Sal.) to the followers of Muhammad (Sal.), then as the sound of these revelations that were transformed into letters and formed into words, becoming in this way, public knowledge and part of history, and what we are all now experiencing as the world today.

For as Bawa teaches us on page 137, in Chapter 12, "The Inner Qur'an", in the book, "Islam And World Peace: Explanations of a Sufi",

          "What was revealed in those words [from the prophet Muhammad (Sal.)]
          ultimately became public knowledge and part of history (and the physical book
          that we now call the "Holy Qur'an").  The interpretations of this knowledge later
          gave rise to religious differences, divisions, and bigotry, which in turn gave rise to
          prejudice, fighting, and wars." 

          "This is the state the world has come to."

Bringing us today to the point in the Qur'an, on the "outside" of us, where "America Invades Iraq", where the "West goes to war with the East", where "Christianity and Judaism go to war with Islam", where the "beast" finally comes out of one of us, to destroy all of us, to destroy all of us on the "outside" of all of us, destroying forever the chance of any of us getting it right before we die.  Such is our current state, my dear loving sister Rumi.

And as "the One who transcends everything", we are the "nothing", the "no-thing", we are what is "One with" everything, what is "One with" the Creation of God and with the Creation of True Man within us, and as such, we are  "The Oneness of God and True Man" within us.

And as "the Cause", we are the Creation of True Man, we are the soul, and the soul within the soul, we are the Triple Flame of God, we are the grace, the light, and the 'ilm or divine knowledge of God, we are the Dhat of Allah, the essence of God, as well as, the sifat or form of the Dhat, which is the Asma'ul Husna, the 99 attributes or names of God, the grace of the Dhat, which is the Qutb of Allah, the action of the power of wilayat of Allah, we are the innermost heart of man, we are the Umm al-Qur'an, the Mother of Man's wisdom, His justice and faith, the eye of the Qur'an, the Suratal Fatihah, the essence of the Qur'an, the Inner Qur'an, we are the kingdom of God, we are akhirah.

My dearest loving sister Rumi, this is God and this is Us. This is who we truly are and this is who God truly is, and as such we are One, as the apple and the apple tree are One, we are everything, we are what transcends everything, and we are the Cause of "everything" becoming "what transcends everything", revealing in this way, "The Oneness of God and True Man" within everything, for the benefit of all of everything.

Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

In this way, my dearest loving sister Rumi, we are the Creation of God know as man and the Creation of True Man know as God, and what transcends all Creation, as well as the Cause of this transition from everything to "no-thing", which is  "The Oneness of God and True Man", as an apple tree is truly the Creation known as the apple, the apple tree, and apple seed, what transcends this Creation known as the apple, the apple tree, and the apple seed, which is "The oneness of the apple tree and the apple", which is hidden within the apple seed, just as we are the "Seed of God and True Man" that hides the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, as well as the Cause of this transition, which is God, as Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim, as the Creator, the Nourisher, and the Sustainer.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

So to forget God is to forget this state, is to forget the state of "The Oneness of God and True Man" hidden within us, and to fall into many a trap, to become the Creation of God within us, and as such, to take on the temporary state of "separation from" God "outside" of us, which if not corrected before we die, by joining with the Cause of God within us, which is our wisdom and the truth of God within it, that God has  personally and ever so lovingly placed and hidden within us, even before we came to this earth world or dunya, join with the Cause of God which is our Shaikh within us, and God within Him, by joining with Them within us to become the temporary state of "Oneness with" God on both the "inside" and "outside" of us, before we die.

Which if not corrected, this temporary state of "separation from" God, before we die, will cause us to take on the eternal state of "separation from" God after we die, which is our karma, our fate, our destiny, which is the karma, fate, and destiny of the 5 elements within us, after they have fall out of the state of purity within us, out of the state of the Kalimah within us, the affirmation of the Unity of Allah given to them by God before God created Adam within us (peace be upon Him), which then becomes our karma, fate, and destiny, of us joined as One with the 5 elemental lives within us, rather then, the eternal state of "Oneness with" God, which is our true birthright, our true heritage, the destiny of our soul, of us joined as One with our Shaikh within us, and with God within Him. 

May we both think about this a little, my dearest loving sister Rumi.  It is very, very important.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

And to know yourself, is to understand these two states, to understand both these states within us, to know the state of "The Oneness of God and True Man" within us, which is the state of "Oneness with" God, and to know the other state within us, the state of "separation from" God within us, and how one state is transformed into the other state, how the state of "separation from" God becomes the state of "Oneness with" God. 

That is the work, my dearest loving sister Rumi, that is the work that leads us to,

          "Man coming to know himself."

The work that we cannot do alone, that we cannot do in the state of "separation from" God, the work that we can only do joined in partnership with God within us, joined as One with our wisdom and the truth of God within us, joined as One with our Shaikh within us, and with God within Him. Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

And knowing both states, to reject the one state and to embrace the other, to reject the state of "separation from" God, of "separation from" each other, and of "separation from" the Creation of God within us, to reject the darkness known as anathi within us, the lack of understanding known as anathi within us, which is our current state, and to embraced the other state, the state of the light of aathi, the understanding of aathi, which is the state of God within us, the state of our Shaikh within us, and of God within Him.

And in this way, to differentiated ourselves into heaven and hell within us, by letting the Qutb of God counsel God in anathi within us, allowing this "true disciple" of God within us, to turn away from His focus and fascination with the darkness surrounding Him, and instead ask the question, "Who am I?, allowing the Power of God to resonate within us, allowing God as this "true disciple" to meditate upon that Power of God within us, allowing the Nur to come to maturity within that Power within us, and having reached maturity within us, to emerge out of that Power within us, out of the heart of our Shaikh, out of God in anathi within us, God in the state of separation from the Nur within us, of separation from His understanding within us, becoming aathi within us, becoming again One with the light of God within us, with the Nur within us, becoming again the understanding of God within us.

To differentiate ourselves into what God becomes "One with" and into what God becomes "separate from", when the Nur and the Qutb emerges out of God in anathi within us, out of the effulgence of God in anathi within us, out of the effulgence of God which is the heart of our Shaikh within us, within anathi within us, which is the darkness or the Shadow of our Shaikh within us, to differentiate ourselves into what is embraced by God and into what is discarded from God when the Nur emerges out of God within us, and becomes the Light of God within us, became "aathi" within us, becomes the Primal One, the Nur Muhammad, Allahu within us, and the Qutb emerges out of the Nur, and in this way, to differentiate ourselves into heaven and hell within us. 

That is our work, my dearest loving sister Rumi, joined as One with our Shaikh within us, and with God within Him, so They can complete this work within us, so We (which is "us" joined as One with Them) can differentiate what is within us, the darkness and lack of understanding of us known as anathi within us, into heaven and hell within us, into the pure soul and the impure souls within us, into what God then uses, as
Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim
within us, to create the Shadow of the Nur, which is man, and place the pure soul within us, as the Nur Muhammad within the Nur Muhammad, as the 6 within the 7th, within Adam within us (peace be upon Him).

Allowing Adam within us (peace be upon Him) to recover from His fall, from the spit of Satan, which is the sperm of man, and the dog of desire, which is the ovum of woman, allowing the eye of Wisdom on the Nur Muhammad that God has placed on the forehead of Adam within us (peace be upon Him) to be permanently opened within us, allowing the Nur Muhammad within us, which is the Iman, which is the "Seed of True Man" within us, to germinate and come to maturity within us, as Allah Muhammad
within us, which is Islam and the "Seed of God" within us, as True Man within us, allowing True Man within us to reveal God within the Creation of True Man within us, and in this way, revealing the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, which in truth is God and True Man within us.

Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

This is our work, my dearest loving sister Rumi, to join with God within us to reveal God within God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God and the Creation of True Man within us, not to worry about Rumi, not to worry about our state as "separate from" God, or to worry what we have to learn in that state, or whether or not we will become acceptable to God in that state, and instead, to let us end, to let "us" as "separate from" God come to an end, as an apple seed, after realizing the truth that emerges from within it, lets itself, as the apple seed end, come to an end, die in the earth, and instead, joins with the earth, to germinate, and reveal the sweet taste of the apple hidden within the apple tree hidden within it.  This is our work.

In this way, when the Nur emerges out of God in anathi, after God meditates upon Himself, after God meditates upon the Power of God within Himself, that manifests within Himself after He is counseled by the Qutb of Allah, and accepts the life and teaching of the Qutb of God, the Guru of God for this age, which for us in this age is the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him), and then turns away from the darkness "outside" of Him, and starts to meditate upon the Power of God that has manifested within Him, which for us in this age is the heart of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him), which manifested within Him, when God in his darkness, not knowing Himself, heeded the advice of the Qutb of God, and asked God within Him the following question, "Who am I?"

And in this way, to have rejected the darkness from Him, and to have embraced and become One with the light within Him, to have rejected the state of darkness, the state of the impure souls, the state of "separation from" God, and to have embraced the other state, the state of "Oneness with" God, which after the Creation of God, of the Shadow of the Nur, also becomes the state of "Oneness with" each other, of "oneness with" our True Brothers and Sisters within us, and of "Oneness with" the Creation of God within us.

In this way, and in this way alone, to embrace our brothers and sisters as they truly are within us, which are the 1000 generosities of God within us, not as they appear in our dream life, as our brothers and sisters that we see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of us, and to embrace the Creation of God within us, also as they truly are within us, which is the 18,000 universes within us, not as we see them in our dream, as animals living "outside" of us.

Rumismith:

This is very beautifully explained.
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5.  Question 2-b:  What Happened To The Original Qur'an of Bawa
          Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

What happened to it is "us", is "us" as the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us) on the "outside" of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), as the "outside" or Shadow of the Shaikh within us.

What happened to it is the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), on both the "inside" and the "outside" of us.

This is what happened to it, which if we properly join it together, if we properly join together "us" and our Shaikh, if we make the Shadow of the Shaikh disappear back into the Shaikh, from which it came, to complete the work of the Shaikh within us, which is to reveal True Man within the Creation of God within us, if we do this divine work before we die, if we properly join together "us", as the "outside" Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.).

As the Shadow of the Shaikh within us, with the "outside" life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), if we join these two together, which is the understanding of the Shaikh joined with the Shaikh within us, it will become the "inside" and "outside" life and teaching of the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), it will become the Children of God for this age, the Light of God to the world in this age, in this age of
Bawa Muhaiyaddeen
(may God be pleased with Him) and of the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us).

This is what happened to the Qur'an of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), to the original Qur'an that came to Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) from Allah 116 years ago, in 1886 AD, with the coming of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) into the world.
          
It became "us" as the "outside" Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us), which if properly joined with the "outside" life and teaching of
Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) becomes the Deen within the Deen, which is the understanding of the Deen within us, the light within the light of what was brought into the world by Muhammad (Sal.) 1400 years earlier, and gradually became corrupted by man.

For as Bawa teaches us, in the "Forward" of the book, "The Pearl of Wisdom",

          "Man, appearing on this earth, forgets God, and into falls into many a trap.  He
          does not know to seek himself, although God exists within man."

And as has recently opened within the heart of your brother, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler),

          "God, appearing as the earth and the Oneness within it, separates from man,
          and lets man fall into many a trap, becoming what will allow man to seek himself,
          and again become One with God, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God and
          of True Man within Him".

It became the Muhaiyaddeen of God (Ral.) for our age, the "giver of life back to true belief", the "bringer of the Pure Light of truth", the "Light within the Light of God for the world" for this age.

And it became the Qur'an within the Qur'an, the Qur'an of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within the Qur'an of Muhammad (Sal.), it became the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within the life and teaching of Muhammad (Sal.), it became the "Resonance of Allah", and the "Pearl of Wisdom", and all of the other books, and all of the other 10, 000 discourses and songs, of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), all given during the life of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) in the world , from 1886 to 1986, all contained within the Revelations of God to Muhammad (Sal.), which were recorded in the Spiritual Book called, "The Holy Qur'an", and recorded in other Spiritual Books like, "The Hadiths or Traditional Story of the Prophet Muhammad (Sal.)", all given during the life of the Prophet Muhammad in the world, from 570 to 632.        
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6.  Question 2-c:  What Will Happen To The Original Qur'an of the Children of
          Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)?

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

What will happen to it is akhirah, "here" and "now", is the "hereafter", the kingdom of God, for all of the people living in the world today, in the 18,000 universes within us, in the 14 worlds within us, for everyone within "us".

This is what will happened to the Qur'an of the true Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), to the original Qur'an that came to the true Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) from Allah 16 years ago, in 1986 AD, with the coming of the true Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) into the world, until their leaving in the year 2086 AD.


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Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

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